Anyone Can Destroy But Few Can Build

“It works a magic to look upon distance. Some people can’t abide it, bigness makes them feel small, instead of offering a challenge. Big country can breed big men. There is knowledge in the muscles of a workman that goes beyond the mind, a skill that lies in the flesh and the fiber and my hands and heart held a love for the wood. To destroy is easy, to build is hard. To scoff is also easy but to go on in the face of scoffing and to do what is right is the way of man.”

I copied this quote from a western paperback, to me it describes how I feel about working on cars and working with my hands. Many can tear down and destroy but few can build and repair. To some the unknown is scarey, to others it is a challenge to conquer and overcome. I love to build, I love to solve problems it’s what makes me come alive.

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One Response to Anyone Can Destroy But Few Can Build

  1. john perles says:

    John,
    Here is the updated list of questions that we have for Jim.
    I’m available on Saturday morning for a conference call and can provide call in numbers for everyone if that works.

    KITS
    1. What type of kits does he install?
    2. Does he recommend a particular manufacturer for the kits?
    3. What is the difference between Mixed air intake and Sequential injection conversion kits?
    4. Is there any variability in the engine running on CNG?
    5. DOE stresses that the non-epa kits will be very hard to tune in……thoughts?
    6. Is there any difference with loss of power or efficiency in using CNG?
    7. Is there a warranty for vehicles that he does?
    8. What does the CNG conversion do to existing warranties on the vehicle?

    FILLERS
    1. What are the regulations on the Compressors? (UL Approval and other specs?)
    2. Why are there so few manufacturers of compressors?
    3. Who else makes compressors?
    4. What experience does he have with home compressors?

    TANKS
    1. What type of tanks does he use?
    2. What vehicles work best for installation (kits and tank location)?
    3. Where are tanks typically located (bed or underneath the frame)
    4. Does he use protective sheeting for the underbody installations?
    5. What are the most popular tank configurations (1 large vs. 2 small, etc.)
    6. Can we be a dealer for his tanks?
    7. What is the tank certification and life span?

    INSTALL
    1. How long does it take for an experienced technician to do the install.
    2. Breakdown of kit install/tank install etc.
    3. What expertise is needed?
    4. Where is the most popular fill spot on the vehicle for the CNG filler?

    GENERAL
    1. What type of tax incentives are his customers able to take advantage of?
    2. What are going to be our biggest hurdles to start this company?
    3. What EPA issues has he faced?
    4. What challenges are there in working with the DOE?
    a. Does vehicle certification only have to do with air emissions?
    5. What liability issues are there for the installer?
    6. Marketing Efforts – How has he marketed his install services?
    a. What was the most successful install – happiest customer?
    b. What was the least successful install – disappointed customer?
    7. Why did the other Utah install companies not survive?


    I will briefly try to answer your questions

    KITS

    1. What type of kits does he install?

    There are very few sequential kits still available, there were many when the gas prices were high but I only know of 3, Auto Gas, Prins, Tomisseto, you can’t buy the last two kits unless you are a trained by that company to be an installer.
    I can get aspirated systems too for older vehicles.

    2. Does he recommend a particular manufacturer for the kits?

    I like Autogas

    3. What is the difference between Mixed air intake and Sequential injection conversion kits?

    There are aspirated systems and sequential systems, the aspirated systems are an older design, the sequential are more sophisticated for newer vehicles.

    4. Is there any variability in the engine running on CNG?


    I don’t understand this question.

    5. DOE stresses that the non-epa kits will be very hard to tune in……thoughts?


    A person can’t even tune an EPA system they are sealed. Any non-epa system can be tuned if you have the tuning software.

    6. Is there any difference with loss of power or efficiency in using CNG?


    Most modern CNG systems have little or no power loss.

    7. Is there a warranty for vehicles that he does?

    The installer usually gives 1 year on labor, there is 2 year warranty on parts.

    8. What does the CNG conversion do to existing warranties on the vehicle?

    A modern sequential systems when tunes correctly runs fine. A person should ask his dealer.

    FILLERS
    1. What are the regulations on the Compressors? (UL Approval and other specs?)

    Don’t know at this time, I won’t sell a compressor without UL.

    2. Why are there so few manufacturers of compressors?

    I know of 3 companies that are working on home fills, I can also get many commercial pumps.

    3. Who else makes compressors?

    If you want price quotes let me know what you want.

    4. What experience does he have with home compressors?


    Like what?

    TANKS
    1. What type of tanks does he use?

    I can get new and used type 1, type 2 and type 4

    2. What vehicles work best for installation (kits and tank location)?


    Tell me a car or truck and I can say if they can be converted.

    3. Where are tanks typically located (bed or underneath the frame)

    Most trucks mount in the bed, smaller tanks can be mounted underneath, cars mount in trunk.

    4. Does he use protective sheeting for the under body installations?

    Read NAFP 52 regs, tanks in open beds need to be covered, underneath needs shield.

    5. What are the most popular tank configurations (1 large vs. 2 small, etc.)

    For what?

    6. Can we be a dealer for his tanks?

    Depends on how much money you have?

    7. What is the tank certification and life span?


    New tanks are 15 or 20 years

    INSTALL
    1. How long does it take for an experienced technician to do the install.

    That depends on the vehicle, a 4 cylinder car, maybe 4 days, a truck with multiple tanks will take longer

    2. Breakdown of kit install/tank install etc.

    Install kit and tank 3 days, tune kit 1 day.

    3. What expertise is needed?

    An installer should be trained for CNG conversions and tank and piping safety, NFPA 52 standards.

    4. Where is the most popular fill spot on the vehicle for the CNG filler?

    Pickups with open beds may put filler inside bed lip or near fuel filler. Cars can fill under front hood or by gas filler.

    GENERAL
    1. What type of tax incentives are his customers able to take advantage of?

    Most rebates and tax credits are for EPA systems, I can get these but they are expensive and are for new vehicles mostly trucks.

    2. What are going to be our biggest hurdles to start this company?


    Read my Blog, if the price of gas rises we will all be busy’

    3. What EPA issues has he faced?

    Read my blog

    4. What challenges are there in working with the DOE?

    Only if you have emission testing in your state.

    a. Does vehicle certification only have to do with air emissions?


    EPA certification is for emissions.

    5. What liability issues are there for the installer?

    You should warranty your work be more specific?

    6. Marketing Efforts – How has he marketed his install services?

    Web site

    a. What was the most successful install – happiest customer?

    Diesel/CNG aspirated system

    b. What was the least successful install – disappointed customer?

    Supercharged Land Rover

    7. Why did the other Utah install companies not survive?

    Price of gasoline went down, false rumors about EPA regulations.

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